South. So we have agreed to bury intuitionism.1 Well, I dare say it is right. But we ought to bury some of the grave-diggers too. Some of the things that Ross said are no doubt wrong, or at least misleading: but they are a lot less wrong than most of the things said since the war.
East. You mean you want to resurrect all that stuff about unanalysable non-natural qualities which we intuit by means of a mysterious moral sense?
South. No. Nor was it maintained by all the intuitionists. Ross2 makes it quite clear that he does not regard our moral intuitions as analogous to sense-experience. Refutations of intuitionism which assume that it represents moral statements as reports of observations,3 though possibly fair against Moore, fail to make out any case against Ross.
East. You want a revival of Ross, then?
South. Together with my friend, North. To my mind, they give a truer account of moral thought than either the emotivists, or the imperativists, or the various analysts, who pointed out their mistakes.
East. What were their mistakes?
South. Too great reliance on perceptual metaphors; too little readiness to consider further possibilities of argument, Paradoxically, the former stems from over-much respect for ordinary language. We do talk about seeing what we ought to do, feeling moral obligations, having moral insight. It is partly that anything we appreciate quickly and without hesitation we tend to describe as though it were a perception; we see solutions of mathematical problems, perceive the longing in a man's eyes, feel the style of an author, although these are all abilities as much as faculties, developed by instruction, practice and experience. Ordinary language expresses how solving a mathematical problem or acting morally in a simple situation seems to us, as a matter of psychological experience, and does not observe any epistemological scruples about the exclusive status of sense-experience. Indeed, I question if there is any such thing as pure sense-experience uncontaminated by thought or interpretation. To see is to understand. Theeye is part of the brain, and what we perceive are not sensa or sense-data but potential cues for action.4 The perceptual metaphor is barely a metaphor at all.
East. I do not want to deny that we sometimes talk about seeing where our duty lies or feeling an obligation or hearing the voice of conscience: but these perceptual verbs are, I insist, not to be taken literally. The trouble with the intuitionists is that they do take them literally, and pretend to give an account of how we come to hold moral views, when in fact they have done nothing more than re-state the facts in a misleading fashion.
South. But if we are to ban all non-literal uses of perceptual words, we must give up many terms of intellectual discourse: (eidos), species, aspect, sense, comprehend, these and many other of the words we use in the theory of knowledge are metaphorical in origin. I suppose it is because man's pre-eminence over the other animals lies in his possession of excellent eyes and of hands that most of our terms for the intellect are visual or manipulative metaphors. If you forbid all use of metaphors, you will have yourself to stop talking of "holding moral views".
East. I do not want to ban all non-literal uses of perceptual words, only to recognise them as non- literal.
South. Intuitionists would do as much. They all emphasize that our apprehension (to use a favourite word of theirs) of moral characteristics is not like our apprehension of sensory qualities. At the very worst, it is compared with a seeing that, `that this three-sided figure, in virtue of being three-sided, must have three angles',5 and even that comparison is only with respect to the immediacy of the two apprehensions.
East. They do not recognize the importance of the
non-literalness of their perceptual metaphors. For all
their qualifications, they talk as if learning a moral
truth was like learning that Henry VIII had six wives or
that Alpha Centauri was 4.33 light years away.
South. In some ways it is, and in some ways it is
not. It is like them, at least so the intuitionists
claim, and I want to agree with them, in being a case of
learning something objective, something which can be true
or false, and not just a matter of inculcating a
subjective attitude. It is unlike them in much the same
way as history is unlike astronomy, and both are unlike
abstract algebra. And this, indeed, is one of the faults
of the intuitionists, that they fail to appreciate the
many different types of discourse, and the different
types of truth appropriate to each. The intuitionists
were wrong here; they were too ready to assimilate
apprehension of moral obligations to visual sense-
experience or geometrical insights: but they were less
wrong than their successors who assimilated moral
utterances to ejaculations, injunctions or avowals.
East. That is soft-soaping. An easy acceptance
of all analogies gets us nowhere. The point is that
there is a crucial difference between history
and natural science, which are based ultimately on sense-experience, and moral discourse, which is not.
South. And geometry?
East. That is all right. It is analytic.
South. Scratch a modern philosopher, and you will
find a logical positivist. I can quite see that if you
embrace the tenets of logical positivism, then you will
have to regard moral propositions as pseudo-propositions,
because they are neither empirical propositions nor
analytic ones. But I do not see why modern philosophers,
having dropped the doctrines, should still retain the
prejudices of the logical positivists.
East. You do not have to be a logical positivist
to think that sense-experience is important, or to fight
shy of non-empirical modes of discourse about some
special world or order of values, unconnected with the
everyday world of sense-experience. I am, if you must
classify me, an empiricist, and therefore think there is
a crucial difference between empirical discourse which is
based on sense-experience, and moral discourse, which is
not.
South. But moral judgements are based on sense-
experience. I am entirely convinced by Hare's argument,
that it would be absurd to say of a particular object
that it was good, or of a particular action in a
particular situation that it was right, and to deny of an
exactly similar object or action that it was good or
right also.7
East. But this is not what I mean by `based'.
When the chemical analyst concludes that the material
submitted for analysis is a salt, he does so because it
exhibits the defining properties of a salt.8 It is what is meant by `salt'.
Whereas when you say an object is good or an action is
right, you do not do so because it exhibits certain
defining properties. At least, I hope you do not.
South No; no naturalist 1. But look, you are
using `based' in a very special sense. It does not
follow from moral statements not being based, in yoursense, on sense-experience, that moral discourse is a
special world out of space and time, or that moral
knowledge is cut off from practical knowledge.9 All that you have shown is
that moral concepts are not based on, in the sense of
being definable in terms of, sense-experience; which we
knew already.
East. It is important, though. If you say `This
act is right because it has P, Q, R', where P, Q, R are
empirically ascertainable qualities, how does your
`because' function? It cannot, you agree, be a logical
`because', that actions that are P, Q, R are by
definition right: and it cannot be an empirical
`because', as when I say `It will be fine in the morning,
because the evening sky is red', for one can observe the
fine morning without having noticed the state of the
evening sky, whereas you agree with
Hare that moral qualities are `seen' as dependent on thefeatures mentioned in the `because' clause. And as my
friend West has already said, there is no other way.10
South. Why not?
East. There just is not. Sorry, but there it is.
South. You have not established this at all.
Even Aristotle allowed that there were four meanings of
the word `because'. You have done nothing to show that
there are only two. The logical positivists said there
were only two, but in so doing made it impossible for
them to prove it.
East. I do not believe that everything the
logical positivists believed is false. In particular, I
do believe that sense-experience and deductive argument
are of crucial importance in the theory of knowledge.
South. I do too; but not that they are of
exclusive importance. It seems to me that the attacks on
intuitionism demand that they are the only things that
count, epistemologically speaking. I can quite see that
from a positivist, usually phenomenalist, position, moral
experience will indeed seem bogus: but then sense-data
have proved to be a somewhat insubstantial and shifting
base from which to mount any attack on any other
philosophical position. And I can quite see that to a
man who believes that deductive logic is the only basis
of sound argument, all moral arguments will appear
specious, at best only persuasive terms of rhetoric: but
then, such a man is going to have to give up arguing in
most fields, not only morals.
East. I do not altogether understand.
South. It is often argued against the
intuitionists, and others, that it is impossible that
answers to practical questions should be deduced or in
some other way derived from statements about what is the
case, since the conclusion of an argument can contain
nothing which is not in the premisses.11 This, of course, is true of
deductions and deductive arguments: but it is not true ofnearly all the arguments we actually engage in, and I see
no reason to dismiss them all as being bad, or to say
that we cannot derive, in some non-deductive way, moral
conclusions from non-moral premisses. If arguments
cannot lead to something which we did not start with at
the outset, they are not much use.
East. It may be implicit in our premisses,
without our being aware of it.
South. Even that is not much use.
East. Many of our premisses may not have been
stated.
South. What you are now claiming is that you can
throw any argument into deductive form, if you are
allowed to add as many premisses as you like. This is
trivially true; or else it is procrustean. If you add
enough premisses, you can deduce the required
conclusions; and any moral argument can be made into a
deductive argument by adding a sufficiency of moral major
premisses: and if you do not add enough premisses, you
can decide that argument was invalid all along; and many
arguments
used by historians have been faulted because they willnot fit easily into this preconceived scheme. But I fail
to see any reason why arguments have to be thrown into
deductive form. They can, if one wants them to be; but
there is no need for them to be. Sometimes, it will
clarify them, but often it obscures their essential form.
East. If an argument is deductively valid, it is
valid: if it is not, it is not.
South. If an argument is deductively valid, it is
deductively valid: but there are plenty of good arguments
which are not in deductive form at all. One can keep the
word `valid' for valid deductive arguments if one likes,
but if so, there will be plenty of invalid arguments
which are meet to be accepted; and it seems to me better
to keep the word `valid' for arguments which are to be
accepted, and `invalid' for those to be rejected: but
this is a verbal matter: the substantial point is that
there are many non-deductive arguments which are
nevertheless perfectly sound ones, and worthy of
acceptance.
East. This will need a lot of arguing for.
South. It has been attempted.12
East. The fundamental difficulty with your moral
arguments is the same as with your moral experience, that
there is not the wide measure of agreement which is
necessary if they are to be accepted as objective or
valid. Sense-experience is all right, because almost
everyone agrees about whether a thing is red or green,
and even colour-blind people can see shapes, as well as
some colour differences, perfectly all right. And
deductive argument is all right, because if a person does
not accept the conclusion of an argument having admitted
the truth of the premisses, he thereby shows himself
unable to speak correctly the language he is using, and
communication breaks down. But there is nothing
comparable in moral discourse. Moral disagreements go on
for ever.
South. A point that Plato made.13
East. It is fatal for the intuitionists' case.
They, and all objectivists, fail to see the importance of
moral disagreement. Moral disagreement is a fact of
life-it can even cause wars. Subjectivists recognize
this. Only to objectivists is the fact surprising.14
South. The fact of moral disagreement argues both
ways. It shows that there is no decision-procedure,
true: but it also shows that we do not despair of a
rational solution of moral disputes-else we would not
argue at all, but rely only on force or fraud to bring
other people's behaviour propensities in line with what
we wanted them to be.
East. I am not sure that so-called moral argument
is anything more than that.
South. That would be a new, and much more
sceptical, thesis. It does not follow from the lack of a
decision-procedure in moral arguments. There are many
other disciplines which do not provide knock-down methods
for settling all disputes; history for example. We have
not settled the question whether Richard III did or did
not murder the
princes in the tower, but we can argue about it perfectly
rationally. Philosophical arguments seldom are decided
conclusively, but we continue to argue as rationally as
we can. From the fact that we cannot produce knock-down
arguments, it does not follow that we cannot produce
sound arguments at all. And although some questions are
not settled, quite a lot of questions are. Controversies
rage for a time, but often end in fairly general
agreement, and this is true of controversy on moral
issues as well as on those of history or philosophy.
East. This is no defence of intuitionism. It is
no more than my friend West was saying.15
South. West allowed that one could give reasons
for judgments, but did not like it when North talked of
the judgments following from the considerations adduced
as reasons. It was partly North's fault. He talked of
its following necessarily, and put forward the misleading
analogy between the way that moral conclusions follow and
the way that geometrical conclusions follow. I do not
want to defend this analogy, and I would not myself talk
of moral conclusions following necessarily, because
people will often take this `necessarily' as a logical
necessity, in which case the claim is false; and if it is
glossed as being a special `moral' necessity, it will not
explain anything. So all I would say is that the
conclusion that an action is wrong follows from the fact
that it will cause pain, in the absence of counter-
considerations, in the same way as even West allows that
the fact of causing pain is a reason for an action's
being wrong.
East. You are accepting all that business about
prima facie rightness.
South. Yes. I find Ross's and Broad's account of
this facet of moral thought completely convincing.
East. Then you lay yourself open to the
criticisms West levelled at North. I suppose I must go
over them again. In the first place, a tendency to be
right (for so I construe prima facie rightness),
like a probability, is not to be construed as ascribing a
certain quality to each individual, but as saying
something about the whole class.
South. Only if you accept the frequency theory of
probability, which involves an excursion into the
existence of the actual infinite which I find rather
embarrassing. It is ontologically less expensive to
construe probability statements as doing precisely what
West says they do not do, namely ascribing a certain
quality to each member of a certain class.16
East. I do not want to be involved in a
discussion of probability.
South. In any case, we do not need theories of
probability to be able to understand what is meant by a
prima facie case. A prima facie case is
one that will hold good, unless there is some further
factor that tells the other way. It includes a ceteris
paribus clause, and therefore is not
logically buttoned up. But provided the ceteris areparibus, the conclusion does follow, and we are saying
something quite definite about an individual case.
East. It still remains improper to talk of a
conclusion following from empirically ascertainable
statements, because it does not follow without
qualification. You are always prepared to allow that an
action is wrong in spite of some prima facie
rightness.
South. Yes, to reverse the example, I would allow
that it was right to cause pain in order to preserve
health for example, in spite of its being prima
facie wrong to cause pain.
East. Then there cannot be any sort of
entailment.
South. No. `Entailment' is a logician's word, and
I am quite happy to reserve it for the logician's
exclusive use; but `follows from' is not a technical term
of logic. It is a phrase we use in our ordinary informal
assessments of ordinary informal arguments. I do not
want perfectly sound moral arguments impugned on the
grounds that the conclusion does not follow, when all
that is meant is that the conclusion is not entailed by
the premisses.
East. I am not sure that `follow from' is used so
freely.
South. I am prepared to take my stand on `a
reason for'. I would like to use `follow from' as its
correlative, but am prepared to make do with phrases like
`is supported by'.
East. You are evacuating into vagueness.
South. It is necessarily vague, but not viciously
so. The difficulty is that moral argument is essentially
a dialogue, whereas formal logic is essentially a
monologue. Moral argument is like legal argument, and a
great deal of historical and philosophical argument. As
Hart shows,17 it is not a
matter of necessary and sufficient conditions, but ofpresumption and counter-presumption, prima facie
cases and rebuttal of cases, so you cannot lay down the
course of argument very precisely in advance of an actual
dispute: it all depends on what the other man says. With
formal logic, everything is laid down at the outset, and
it does not matter who the other man is or what he says;
once the premisses have been conceded, everything else
follows.
East. That seems to me a desperate expedient.
You are no longer saying that the presence of some factor
phi, like promise-keeping, makes an action right,
but the presence of this feature coupled with the absence
of any features which would make it wrong. You are
saying that x's having phi and x's having no
psi such that x's having psi would be a
reason for x's being wrong is itself a reason for x's
being right. But it will not do, because you could not
establish x's having no psi etc. without
first enumerating all those features which would make it
wrong to keep a promise; and anyhow you would get into an
infinite regress as soon as you started to explain in a
similar fashion what you meant by saying that some factor
psi was wrong-making.18
South. No, no, no. It is a different you.
There is a shift in the burden of proof. I cite
the factor phi as a reason for the actions being
right; then if you dispute my conclusion, it is for you
to point out some further factor psi telling the
other way. I do not have to prove that there is no such
psi---indeed, an impossible task---but only leave
it for you to pick on some such psi if there be
any such. If you cannot, then my case stands. If you
can produce a psi which seems to count the other
way, then of course I have to consider it, and the issue
between us is somewhat altered. It may be that our
argument will be interminable and will never reach a
conclusion. But it does not have to be, and the dialogue
need neither lead to infinite regress in theory nor be
absurd in practice.
East. Well, that is an interesting theory, which
may or may not be true; but it is not intuitionism.
South. I am not an intuitionist. I think that
any account of moral judgment should be in terms of
Reason, not Perception. Though often, I think, our
reasons are hard to articulate, and we ought to be guided
by Common Sense, as much as by any articulate set of
doctrines. But this is little different from the
position that the later intuitionists held. And while I
am prepared to criticize them myself, the criticisms
which have actually been levelled at them have been
largely misdirected.
East. On what points would you be prepared to
criticize them? You half-conceded that they did make too
much use of perceptual metaphors. What else did you say-
--`too little readiness to consider further possibilities
of argument'?
South. It is the other side of the same coin. I
do not object to the use of perceptual terms; they are
often the right words to use. The objection comes when
the perceptual analogy is used to block argument. If
intuiting moral characteristics was very like seeing
visible properties of material objects, then there never
could be any argument about morals. But we do argue
about morals, and as Ross often admits, our actual
apprehension of what is right may be changed on
reflection.19 I understand
why they wanted to block argument, and sometimes theywere right to do so. But they did it too thoroughly,
ruling out all possibility of further argument.
East. How could it ever be right to block
argument?
South. Because although you can always ask a
further question, you cannot be always asking questions.
In any serious argument, both parties have got to
agree about some things, as well as disagree about other
things; if there is no common ground, there is nothing to
start from.
East. Yes.
South. The trouble with moral philosophy has been
that it has tried to deal with too many questions at
once. It has tried to give both a coherent account of
moral thought and an answer to the moral sceptic
all in the same breath. This is the cause of Prichard'sdissatisfaction with moral philosophy. He sees that we
cannot produce a philosophical proof of the
obligatoriness of our obligations, and that unless we
were sometimes aware of obligations, we should have no
moral consciousness and no moral discourse at all. In
much the same way, a historian who had been treated to
endless philosophical discussion about whether, and, if
so, how, we could have knowledge of the past, might weary
of the whole business and protest that we knew perfectly
well that there was a past, and that if we had any doubts
about the matter, or if we wanted to understand the
nature of history, what we needed to do was to engage in
actual historical thought, not philosophical discussion
about it.
East. I sympathize with the protest.
South. I do, too, in part. What is needed really
is to separate out the different levels of argument
designed to answer different sorts of question. Unlike
Prichard, I think the sceptic can be argued with, perhaps
even answered. But this is different from giving a
sensible account of the structure of moral, or
historical, argument. And while one is doing the latter,
one is presupposing that we do have moral obligations or
make moral judgments or know some things about the past.
East. I see. You are saying that an analytical
philosophy of morals presupposes that moral scepticism is
false, just as analytical philosophy of history
presupposes that scepticism about the past is false.
South. Yes. The intuitionists were in effect
limiting the field of moral philosophy in order to
achieve some understanding of one part, namely how most
people do and should reflect on moral issues. Hence
their insistence on the primacy of moral experience or
the moral consciousness as the starting point and
touchstone of their enquiry.20 I would say in their defence that
although there are other questions, any philosopher who
fails to concern himself with this question, has precious
little chance of reaching any worthwhile insight into
moral discourse.
East. If intuitionism only ruled out certainrather dubious questions, there would be little objection
to it. The trouble is that it rules out every question.
South. Not in the later forms of it. Ross makes
it quite clear that he does not rule out the possibility
of dispute.21
East. He allows disputes in actual cases, where
there may be a conflict of prima facie
obligations; but he is as dogmatic as the rest of them
about our apprehension of the prima facie
rightness of certain types of act. It is self-evident,
like a mathematical axiom.22 If a person does not agree with
you, you are not to argue with him, but damn him as
morally blind or wilfully perverse.23 You cannot defend that.
South. If I was arguing with a man, and he did
not allow that causing pain was a reason for an action's
being wrong, that is, he did not see the relevance of the
fact that the action caused pain, I think I should
break off the argument with him. Almost all our seriousmoral arguments-on capital punishment, on divorce, on
family and professional obligations-are carried on within
a context of fairly wide agreement on what considerations
are relevant to the issue. The problem is what weight to
attach to the various considerations. We cannot carry on
one of these arguments with a man who does not see that
there is any argument against killing people, or making
them unhappy, or neglecting one's family or abandoning
one's vocation.
East. You mean that it is quite impossible to
query the relevance of an issue which other people have
thought to be relevant?
South. No. I think one can, but that if one does,
one is changing the whole argument.24 It would cease to be an argument
about capital punishment, and would be one instead about
the wrongfulness of homicide. The intuitionists were
right in seeing that one cannot argue about both issues
in the same logical breath, wrong in making one utterly
unarguable about in their concentration on the other.
East. You would be prepared to argue any issue.
South. I think I would try. Though I must say
that my first reaction to a man who thought that causing
pain was prima facie a good thing rather than a
bad one would be to send him to a psychologist rather
than argue with him.
East. That is the trouble with you intuitionists.
If people do not agree with you, you start calling them
names or hitting them over the head. instead of arguing
with them.
South. Do you in fact argue with sadists? Do you
not in fact say that the only policy with them is to
break off the argument, (ea chairein)25 and say that they need to
be cured, rather than convinced? In the same way, we do
not enter into long historical arguments with men who
insist that the battle of Waterloo was fought in 1789 or
that Lord Curzon was Prime Minister of England in
succession to Bonar Law. We do not try to convince them,we just do not admit them to our university.
East. It is too easy a way out. Anybody who does
not share the views of a twentieth-century upper-class
Englishman is deemed to be unarguable with and not a
rational being at all.
South. Yes. It is too easy a way out. That is
the trouble with the perceptual analogy, that it is too
effective in blocking the questions and argument. The
intuitionists were right to block some questions and
decline some arguments while they were considering
other sorts of argument, wrong to stonewall always. They
concentrated too much on the moral consciousness of the
best men, and ignored the sort of question that less good
men might raise.
East. And received a pretty rude awakening in
1939.
South. True. But now we are too much concerned
with how we should argue with bad men, with Nazis or
Nietzscheians. This is equally
unrealistic. We very seldom actually argue with Nazis,whereas we quite often argue with men whom we would
regard as morally good even though they disagreed with us
on some point. It is worth examining the conceptual
structure of our actual moral thought, and this is what
the intuitionists were trying to do, and if their
accounts are not proof against misunderstanding, they are
not nearly as misleading as is commonly made out.
Merton College,
Oxford
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2. W.D.Ross, The Right and the
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3. P.H.Nowell-Smith, Ethics,
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4. R.L.Gregory, Eye and Brain,
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10. P.F.Strawson, op. cit.,
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11. P.H.Nowell-Smith, Ethics,
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13. Phaedrus 263a.
14. P.H.Nowell-Sniith, Ethics,
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15. P.F.Strawson, pp.27-8 (pp.254-5).
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18. P.30 n; pp.256-7, n.5.
19. W.D.Ross, The Right and the
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20. W.D.Ross, The Right and the
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21. W.D.Ross, The Right and the
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22. p.29.
23. P.H.Nowell-Smith, Ethics,
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24. J.R.Lucas, `On Not Worshipping
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25. Phaedo 63e.