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Tides look good for Pembroke...
Robert
10:31 AM, 20/05/13
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That, also, is a start Wink I hope you're back to full strength soon
Niall H.
11:53 PM, 19/05/13
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"That's a start. Are you feeling recovered, by the way?" -- Niall H.

I've spent most of the day awake, I'm not coughing very much, and I cleaned stuff. Grinning But I haven't left the house, and I'm not entirely sure I'm ready to face normal life. So a little of Section A and a lot of Section B, I think.
Cameron
11:17 PM, 19/05/13
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Lina and I successfully introduced an old friend to the joys of climbing outdoors. It was a lovely sunny day at Burbage, marred only by the fact that we didn't find the pub in Hathersage everyone else went to...

Thanks for the helmet loan, Jamie Happy
Dave A
11:02 PM, 19/05/13
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That's a start. Are you feeling recovered, by the way?
Niall H.
10:57 PM, 19/05/13
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I've heard that everyone met up successfully today, and that everyone was accounted for and in the correct vehicle for the way back. Happy No idea how the climbing/caving, went though!
Cameron
10:52 PM, 19/05/13
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Any news on how the meet went, and how the caving escapade was?
Niall H.
10:49 PM, 19/05/13
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Good luck with applications. They are something of a bore! Perhaps I'll be able to go to Brookes on Thurs (or even before.) If Steve got home early tonight I could be tempted to go without kids this evening.
Katja
3:22 PM, 19/05/13
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Glad you got some climbing done Katja Happy Unfortunately I'm supposed to be being good this weekend and getting these applications done, and I've only managed half of one so far, so it looks like I've got a fun afternoon ahead of me Rolling eyes
Have fun!
Aileen
1:43 PM, 19/05/13
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I'll make it about 15:00 then - wouldn't want to interrupt people being quiet!
Niall H.
10:17 AM, 19/05/13
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Thanks Niall. 2pm is always a bit tricky as that's quiet time in our house. 2:30 or 3 would be better... is that possible? if not then come at 2:06.
Katja
8:11 AM, 19/05/13
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Glad to hear you had fun, and that the childrens' party was less disappointing than you'd feared.
I think I'll try to get my climbing done in Oxford: I don't recall your bouldering wall as being kind on shoulders; so my plan would be to take the 13:10 S1 from George Street, getting to Carterton about 14:06 - would that work for you? (the Polo's unavailable at the moment, while I work on a problem)
Niall H.
9:07 PM, 18/05/13
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Wow! The kids party was at Northleach climbing wall and I managed to belay a granny on two routes and then do five myself while the kids investigated their party bags. So not quite as keen on taking kids to Brookes tomorrow now. I don't suppose you fancy coming here Niall, Aileen? We could do a spot of bouldering in the garden and I could make you some cake....
Katja
6:49 PM, 18/05/13
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Dave, if you don't want to faff with going into the city, you're welcome to call round and grab mine - I'm at the very top of the Iffley Road. Just text me to check I'll be in, as I'm working on and off all day: oh sevn ate 55 5 nein fore 867.
Jamie
1:59 PM, 18/05/13
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Hello Dave, you should be able to borrow one from the club gear at Norham Gardens - I'd email Steve R or Michael P to find out. Other than that, you're welcome to borrow mine.
Cameron
1:36 PM, 18/05/13
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Hello GP, has someone got a climbing helmet I could borrow for a trip tomorrow? I can collect from anywhere, some point today. Thanks!
Dave A
1:30 PM, 18/05/13
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I have been eating plenty of cake, thank you George. Made of ground almonds. And have made flapjacks for the party.
Katja
12:55 PM, 18/05/13
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Katja: you should also eat CAKE. I find that always helps Grinning
George
9:11 AM, 18/05/13
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That's alright, Niall. The word solace is very comforting. And I think the weather is good enough to cut the grass and do some gardening when I get my act together. x
Katja
9:02 AM, 18/05/13
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Katja: I quite agree, on both points. Sadly, today, I seem only to be able to offer solace in small quantities
Niall H.
9:55 PM, 17/05/13
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Damn - I can't make Sunday Brookes - tutoring all weekend. Sorry, Kat - at least it looks like you might get a few people to go with you.

Normal service will be resumed after the bloody exam season finishes Confused
Jamie
9:46 PM, 17/05/13
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Ps. Although true, Niall, there is a huge difference between parties for young children and parties for grown-ups. It seems a trifle unfair that I go to a great deal more of the former.
Katja
9:31 PM, 17/05/13
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OH dear. I had the wrong Saturday down for the Irvine AGM. I wonder if we can do Font Sun - Fri instead. I think Steve may be working.
Katja
9:29 PM, 17/05/13
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Thanks, the pub helped too. I'm now torn between a hot batha and a story or trying to use some of my remaining motivation and an empty office desk to achieve something.
Katja
8:12 PM, 17/05/13
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Glad to hear you have a party to go to: that always helps!
Get well soon Lina.
Niall H.
7:51 PM, 17/05/13
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Oh! And sorry for Lina. Perhaps she'll feel well enough for Brookes on Sunday Wink.
Katja
7:09 PM, 17/05/13
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Thank you! Have just been invited to a neighbour's daughter's birthday party for tomorrow afternoon so we'll try to go to that. (Does clash a bit with naptime.) Hooray for Sunday Brookes.... Happy
Katja
7:08 PM, 17/05/13
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Have fun at the Ceileidh, those of you who are going. Sadly, Lina is not feeling well, so we shan't be there Sad
Dave A
7:07 PM, 17/05/13
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I'm not going on the meet either and was considering fitting in Sunday brookes.

Sorry about the job Katja Sad
Aileen
4:48 PM, 17/05/13
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I'm not going on the meet, and would certainly be up for Sunday Brookes. Will look at the weather before saying yes to a picnic!
Niall H.
4:37 PM, 17/05/13
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CASotD? Woof.
Big Dog
3:51 PM, 17/05/13
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I'm not on the meet, but am going to a friend's in Cambridge for Saturday night, sorry. You two should definitely keep each other company!
Jenny
3:49 PM, 17/05/13
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Am going to volunteer at the school I was interviewed at today. Of course, I actually have to pay to do that these days. Rolling eyes I was going to ask a similar question Jamie as I could really really do with some Brookesing this weekend. Steve left for the Peaks a few hours ago. I'm going to the pub for dinner with the kids, and then really don't feel like being alone for the whole weekend. Who's not on the meet? There's some kind of kids fair on in Carterton from 11am but I'd be all in favour of skipping that and picnicking in Badbury woods? Or Brookes on Sunday? Could cook dinner on Sat....x
Katja
3:47 PM, 17/05/13
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Bad luck, Kat. If there's anything I can do to help, you only have to call... though I fear my experience as a secondary teacher's not that relevant. Worth shadowing a current primary teacher for a bit to update practice?

Who's not on the meet and around this Saturday evening?
Jamie
3:35 PM, 17/05/13
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That is a pity: I'm sorry to hear that, Katja Sad
Niall H.
2:49 PM, 17/05/13
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Oh no, you didn't get the job? Really sorry Kat. Chatting to a current primary teacher good be a good way to get some updated teached "lingo"... unfortunately I can't think of anyone to recommend!

Don't be too sad, another job will come up, and we're going to Font soon Happy
Jenny
2:47 PM, 17/05/13
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If only I could write novels. Or something. I did enjoy teaching this morning but need a lot more updated teacher speak to get me further. Which is a shame because the chances of a job coming up that's equally appropriate are very low.
Katja
2:36 PM, 17/05/13
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Fail.
Katja
2:27 PM, 17/05/13
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Bethan: That's the widget I'd spotted Grinning it should be easy enough to integrate, I reckon. The challenge is to work out how to abuse Aeron's poor scripts, and present all the different options without making things too cluttered.
Dave A
1:51 PM, 17/05/13
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"PS I like that the caving photo looks like the caver has their head in a "this isn't even type three fun anymore" pose" -- Aeron
He's not the best judge of that.
NickD
12:21 PM, 17/05/13
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PS - looking at that caving photo again, it looks as if the person might have given up the will to live.
Bethan
11:58 AM, 17/05/13
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Fighting the Met Office corner (I'm not employed by them, honest!), is this useful for embedding MO forecasts? There are both location-specific and mountain area options.
Bethan
11:42 AM, 17/05/13
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PS I like that the caving photo looks like the caver has their head in a "this isn't even type three fun anymore" pose
Aeron
11:00 AM, 17/05/13
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I love the GP Grinning

Dave: I made scripts to generate all the weather pages automatically, so hopefully they are still around and you should be able to just add the Wye Valley in a text file somewhere and then run the script...
Aeron
10:57 AM, 17/05/13
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Is there some kind of link between Cameron posting that caving photo, then Cameron sending an email saying there are lots of people who are now planning on only driving up for one day of the joint cavers meet? Rolling eyes
Dave A
8:28 AM, 17/05/13
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Niall: I salute you.

Grinning
Mary
10:12 PM, 16/05/13
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I'm assuming it's type two fun
Niall H.
9:49 PM, 16/05/13
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That picture sums up everything I don't understand about caving!
Bethan
9:18 PM, 16/05/13
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Indeed... Shock
Cameron
8:44 PM, 16/05/13
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Oh good gracious. But I stand by my comment that a literal interpretation would make that brown slime a rather more unwelcome prospect.
Mary
8:38 PM, 16/05/13
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That looks like truth in advertizing.
Niall H.
8:19 PM, 16/05/13
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The pics suggest it might give the right impression...
Cameron
8:06 PM, 16/05/13
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Er, I certainly would hope that it DOESN'T give the right impression, otherwise you're in for an interesting time..... Shock
Mary
8:02 PM, 16/05/13
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While it probably gives the right impression, I feel that the cavers could have found a more attractive name for their route than 'Colostomy Crawl'.
Cameron
7:45 PM, 16/05/13
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It'll be fun to see you in Oxford. I hope the boss has redeeming characteristics!
Niall H.
7:28 PM, 16/05/13
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Just stubborn and uncooperative boss.... Confused
But as Sesh said, we will be there in June! And might be able to join for both of the social events! Grinning
iza
5:58 PM, 16/05/13
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We are still coming to Oxford for a week from the 8th of June, Kat – they'd better not cancel her leave for that! (Actually I'll be in the country a bit longer than a week, though not in Oxford the whole time.)
Fred
12:41 PM, 16/05/13
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No! Iza!!!
Clare
12:23 PM, 16/05/13
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Are you still coming to Oxford, Iza? I heard a rumour that you were, and we would love to see you! xxx
Katja
11:59 AM, 16/05/13
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Iza: that's sad news - what's happened?
Niall H.
10:40 AM, 16/05/13
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I'm planning on going to brookes tonight too.
Aileen
9:21 AM, 16/05/13
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Noooooo!! Why not? Crying
Jenny
8:27 AM, 16/05/13
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I can't go to Font Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad
iza
7:56 AM, 16/05/13
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Niall - barely. It is quite pleasant, though, or appears so at this end of the evening.
Clare
5:05 AM, 16/05/13
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Clare: would you call it urbane?
Bethan: yes, at least briefly
Niall H.
11:56 PM, 15/05/13
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Is anyone planning on routes at Brookes on Thursday evening?
Bethan
11:24 PM, 15/05/13
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I would like to come to the pub. Instead I am in Urbana, Illinois. :-(
Clare
8:56 PM, 15/05/13
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Cameron: will do
Will B
7:11 PM, 15/05/13
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I'm planning to escape my upcoming meeting at 9pm pleading a prior commitment, but can someone buy food for me as 9pm approaches? A chilli would be lovely, although I'd really be happy with anything.
Cameron
6:59 PM, 15/05/13
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I think I'll aim for about 20:00 (having only just noticed that it's quarter to seven now)
Niall H.
6:46 PM, 15/05/13
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"Early pub?" -- Steve

Quite possibly... a few things to finish, but could get there a bit after 7pm.
Will B
6:23 PM, 15/05/13
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Early pub?
Steve
6:11 PM, 15/05/13
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I liked the clarification: "This wasn't a fight between Star Wars fans and Doctor Who fans with lightsabres and sonic screwdrivers drawn" Happy
Niall H.
6:10 PM, 15/05/13
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Could someone just double check the date for me? I could have sworn it wasn't april the first Shock
Dave A
5:14 PM, 15/05/13
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Did I mention that something of that kind, combined with a lack of range-checking and a subtly incorrect regexp, is my best guess for what caused Edit.cgi to loop, causing the last couple of broken-GP events? (For reference, Edit.cgi does take env strings like that - it uses them in the Reply Quoting function - but Post.cgi doesn't as there's no reason for it to)
Niall H.
4:56 PM, 15/05/13
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(Actually I was tempted to link to post.cgi and see whether the script would read CGI params from the URL of a HTTP GET rather than the body of a POST. Then I took a step back and decided it would probably be best for everyone if I didn't try that...)
Will B
4:46 PM, 15/05/13
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"wait what? I liked that..." -- Robert

Wow, you were quick...
Will B
4:43 PM, 15/05/13
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wait what? I liked that...
Robert
4:10 PM, 15/05/13
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"There should be two forecast pages, each listing all locations. One should show the most outrageously optimistic forecast available for each location; the other should present the most pessimistic forecasts, for people unable to get away for some climbing." -- Will B

Like
Robert
4:09 PM, 15/05/13
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There should be two forecast pages, each listing all locations. One should show the most outrageously optimistic forecast available for each location; the other should present the most pessimistic forecasts, for people unable to get away for some climbing.
Will B
4:02 PM, 15/05/13
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bewbs r kewl
NickD
3:26 PM, 15/05/13
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It's comments like that which remind me why I'd rather not have pictures on the GP
Niall H.
2:33 PM, 15/05/13
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""And Nick: if you want images you could start using the Facebook page?" -- Robert
lol" -- NickD


Where are the boobies? You're not the NickD I used to know.
Robert
2:07 PM, 15/05/13
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Ah, ok, I can see that advantage, too. Would there be a way to have more than location-specific forecast on the main page so you can compare forecasts and locations?

How about a general "weather page" that has the rain radar, surface pressure chart and forecast for the UK so you could see the outlook for the entire country ("Is it worth me going anywhere at all this weekend?"), and a page with climbing destinations so you can compare the forecast for individual locations?
Bethan
2:04 PM, 15/05/13
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Right, you may have good ideas but you lot are terrible for productivity. Leave me some more good suggestions to peruse later on. Ciao!
Dave A
1:58 PM, 15/05/13
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"And Nick: if you want images you could start using the Facebook page?" -- Robert
lol
NickD
1:57 PM, 15/05/13
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There are already individual pages for each location (minus the Wye Valley as yet), see users.ox.ac.uk/~climbing/amb_site/OUMC/weather/

We could simply double up on each forecast page to show both (or more in future). I quite like the combined page to see if anywhere will be worth going to over the next week Rolling eyes
Dave A
1:56 PM, 15/05/13
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p.s. I have to disagree with Bethan: while I do like comparing different forecasts, imo the most useful feature of the current page is that it compares all the possible locations you might go from Oxford on the same page, so you can quickly see that Portland is the best option Grinning
Robert
1:55 PM, 15/05/13
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Having the different locations AND different forecast options would be cool. Happy For the (lower) Wye Valley forecast "Chepstow" is probably a good place to pick.

And Nick: if you want images you could start using the Facebook page?
Robert
1:54 PM, 15/05/13
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Dave, if it were me I would have a page for each location with each forecast shown next to each other, rather than a page for each type of forecast. It makes it much easier to compare/contrast. I'd be more than happy to help you develop a climbing weather/forecast section if you were up for it.
Bethan
1:53 PM, 15/05/13
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I can't remember if I figured out how to use individual preferences. An addition to the cookie would allow people to select whether they see images or not.
NickD
1:50 PM, 15/05/13
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I am PRO pictures on the GP.
The GP code may still include the necessary function. It'll be commented out somewhere in there.
NickD
1:49 PM, 15/05/13
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Having never been to the Wye Valley, can someone suggest the best location to get weather from? I'll add the Wye Valley to the existing MetCheck page first, but the UKMO have a nice widget that should be pretty easy to include too. Worth having a page for each type of forecast? That way people can compare and contrast etc.

While I'm at it, what do people think of images on the GP (as NickD suggested a while back)?
Dave A
1:47 PM, 15/05/13
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Don't you already have pictures on your GP?
Fred
1:47 PM, 15/05/13
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I am 100% in support of EITHER a Like button OR pics on the GP.
NickD
1:42 PM, 15/05/13
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Bethan, I am in support of not supporting a 'like' button.

Grinning
Mary
1:29 PM, 15/05/13
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Wink
(My vote is 100% for the UKMO forecast and 0% for the implementation of a like button)
Bethan
1:26 PM, 15/05/13
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"w.r.t. Mary's post - *searches for a "like" button*" -- Bethan

Now, I know this is risking turning into a feature request thread, but really? Really?!
Dave A
1:22 PM, 15/05/13
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w.r.t. Mary's post - *searches for a "like" button*
Bethan
1:20 PM, 15/05/13
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Also I agree that that weather site is really good! But we need the Wye Valley. And obviously all forecasts should be changed to use Met Office ones Wink
Mary
1:18 PM, 15/05/13
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Indeed.
Mary
12:06 PM, 15/05/13
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You only need to worry when Mary turns up with an ice axe.
Niall H.
11:43 AM, 15/05/13
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"Dave, you're looking bright this morning. Happy " -- Cameron

That would be my first GP bugfix actioned Happy Now to await the lynch mob..
Dave A
11:10 AM, 15/05/13
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Dave, you're looking bright this morning. Happy
Cameron
10:50 AM, 15/05/13
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Oooops! I left my water bottle (clear Nalgene, green lid) at Reading wall last night. They've got it in reception with my name on it. If anyone happens to be going to Reading in the near future, would you be able to pick it up for me? I can repay you with gratitude and possibly beer/cake Happy
Bethan
10:35 AM, 15/05/13
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Ooh, shiny. That is a useful page Grinning I'll add it to my list.
Dave A
10:33 AM, 15/05/13
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I've just noticed that [this] users.ox.ac.uk/~climbing/amb_site/OUMC/weather/metcheck_all.shtml page is missing the Wye Valley! It's a really handy little page that - a little known gem of the OUMC website Happy
Robert
9:59 AM, 15/05/13
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Glad to hear you're having fun, Clare! The keyboard thing seems to be a common cause of complaint, with no easy fixes, I'm afraid Sad
Niall H.
7:50 PM, 14/05/13
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Cute animals in things Grinning
My favourite is the Amazon one.
Flick
2:38 PM, 14/05/13
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Sesh, I didn't wear my mortarboard at any point. Shepherd and W will advise on gowns and hoods. Allow 25 quid* per gown and 20 quid per hood.

* sodding hell my bluetooth keyboard doesn't have a pound sign!

PS Chicago is very warm. And very cool.
Clare
1:39 PM, 14/05/13
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NickD: ho ho!
Speaking of old, I seem to recall that today is a very good day to say "Happy Birthday" to Steve - Happy Birthday, Steve!
Niall H.
1:02 PM, 14/05/13
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Today's Grauniad top clue: Rupert Murdoch is old (6,3,5).
NickD
10:48 AM, 14/05/13
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Yes, but I was concerned with getting good photos rather than checking to see where the mortarboard had ended up! That last phase only takes a few seconds...

I suppose I could go and check on my camera but it's at home Rolling eyes
Jamie
10:46 AM, 14/05/13
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Jamie, didn't you just watch Clare graduating a week ago? Wink
Jenny
10:43 AM, 14/05/13
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You carry it to start with, then wear it at the end, if I remember correctly (I graduated in 2006 though, so I might be wrong!).
Jenny
10:42 AM, 14/05/13
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I *think* you only carry it, but someone who's graduated more recently than me might confirm that..?
Jamie
10:23 AM, 14/05/13
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Thanks for the offer, Jamie! Does one actually wear the mortarboard at any point, or is it to be carried like at matriculation? Because if one wears it, I suppose it might be important to check head sizes ...
Fred
9:25 AM, 14/05/13
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It's not, Rob. Sesh - if I was you I'd get in touch with Shepherd & Woodward and let them handle it all. They know what they're doing (and in fact saved C from screwing up after her college mis-advised her).

I can lend you white bow-tie and mortarboard.
Jamie
9:20 AM, 14/05/13
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When I graduated Magdalen provided all the gowns and hats required - I just needed the suit and white bow tie. I don't know if that is a universal policy though.
Robert
9:14 AM, 14/05/13
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I have some questions for anyone who knows about graduation ceremony faff: what is the procedure regarding the different gowns I need, and if I hire from one of the High Street shops, do they take care of the fact that I might need more than one at different stages, or do I need to do that myself (for extra £££)? Also could someone currently in Oxford potentially lend me some sub-fusc necessities please - e.g. white bow tie, mortar board? Not sure if I have such stuff around any more.
Fred
9:11 AM, 14/05/13
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Oh crikey that's insane! And my sister is visiting this weekend so I can't come Crying but really Grinning as she hasn't visited before!
Mary
11:17 PM, 13/05/13
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Yeah. But it was really fun last time, and if we did it before, we should be able to do it again... Grinning
Cameron
11:09 PM, 13/05/13
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Ouch - you've really been in the Wars this year Niall!

Also Cameron: sounds like you're organizing the most complicated meet in the world!
Robert
10:43 PM, 13/05/13
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Comms have happened - they're happily aware that all is well and it's no big deal (I had a bit of a spill, sliced up my chin, and have a sore shoulder, is all: n'est-ce pas?)
Niall H.
10:39 PM, 13/05/13
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Have you talked to your Dad yet Niall? x
Katja
10:07 PM, 13/05/13
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Cameron: fair explanation.
Katja: Ah!
Niall H.
9:59 PM, 13/05/13
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And drying out. (Currently sat in my garage)
Katja
9:37 PM, 13/05/13
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It is a tent for drinking whisky in because we have decided that that is its purpose.

It's a 5-second tent that we snaffled after it was abandoned by its original owner, who spent a long time trying to fold it up in the driving rain on Saturday morning, before getting very cross, kicking the tent, driving round it several times in a very muddy field in an apparently fruitless attempt to get back to the main track, before finally getting a push (from us and some pensioners), whereupon he high-tailed it out of the campsite, never to be seen again. Shock

We then took charge of the tent on Saturday evening (when we were sure it was properly abandoned), and set it up to drink whisky in on Sunday. It still needs pimping though.
Cameron
9:30 PM, 13/05/13
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So, is this tent whisky flavoured or whisky branded? And which whisky? And how did you land up snaffling a tent?
Niall H.
9:23 PM, 13/05/13
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I'm trying and failing to come up with a good 'crag swag/whiskey swig' pun. It's probably for the best that I'm failing really...

Really good long weekend in the lakes. We even managed to get a couple of pitches of climbing done Shock Thanks Lina, Cameron, Aileen and Dave M.
Dave A
8:08 PM, 13/05/13
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Yes, that should be fine. If it's not, I'll send you a text...
Cameron
6:27 PM, 13/05/13
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Cool, Cameron we'll be leaving from my house at 6 if that's OK?
Mary
6:24 PM, 13/05/13
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Just so as I'm not repeating myself, I'll add that I had a very fun weekend in the Lake District that featured very varied weather, and that OUMC is now the proud owner of a Whisky Tent.
Cameron
6:17 PM, 13/05/13
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I'm up for Reading tomorrow if there's space in the car. Happy
Cameron
6:12 PM, 13/05/13
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Check out the bridging on number 8: http://www.buzzfeed.com/mattbellassai/animals-youre-definitely-not-the-boss-of
XANDRA
5:08 PM, 13/05/13
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Iffley later? Like 7pm? Sorry I missed your previous post!
Steve
5:01 PM, 13/05/13
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Better bring yours - I've decided to retire my indoor rope after abseiling on it at Swanage and being rather unnerved by it.

Anyone else? Leaving my house at 6pm tomorrow.
Mary
3:22 PM, 13/05/13
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Mary: sounds good - depart from yours? Best bring your rope, as my indoor 25 won't be enough! Or I can bring my 60.
Will B
3:11 PM, 13/05/13
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iffley at 3 ? anyone ... me and steve are going it people what to join us
tim
2:39 PM, 13/05/13
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Leave Oxford at 6? I suppose I really ought to get some work done...
Mary
2:30 PM, 13/05/13
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"Anyone want to go to Reading tomorrow evening for a change? I'm happy to drive." -- Mary

Me!
Jenny
2:00 PM, 13/05/13
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Oooh... what time are you likely to want to leave Oxford?
Will B
12:27 PM, 13/05/13
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Anyone want to go to Reading tomorrow evening for a change? I'm happy to drive.
Mary
12:08 PM, 13/05/13
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