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Clare: that would be handy, thanks!

Mary: not far, just to Hurst Street! Got tired of Abingdon Road. And renting.
Will B
8:23 PM, 19/04/15
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"Clare: that would be handy, thanks!

Mary: not far, just to Hurst Street! Got tired of Abingdon Road. And renting." -- Will B


The place I looked at with you?
Jamie
8:29 PM, 19/04/15
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Jamie: yup, completing on the 5th
Will B
8:30 PM, 19/04/15
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Hurst Street
Handy for the Rusty Bicycle (and Iffley, of course)
I'll have a chat with the desktop people at work: they get through a huge number of boxes
Niall H.
8:37 PM, 19/04/15
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Cool! Congrats!
Mary
8:58 PM, 19/04/15
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Will, we've got some empty boxes if you need them.
Lina
10:03 PM, 19/04/15
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O, wise GP: Does anybody know of or subscribe to any engineering / technology magazines that they would recommend? Preferably something that's aimed at people who have a bit of engineering/science knowledge, I'm interested in technical details as well as the 'Oooh isn't this shiny' stories :-)

Background is that I'm trying to work out what I might be interested in for a job/PhD in engineering, and I'd like to read about interesting technologies/projects for some inspiration. I'm coming from a physics background but don't really have any strong feelings about which engineering discipline I would prefer. Probably more physical, mechanical, hands-on type stuff rather than software or electronics engineering, but I'm open to anything interesting.

Thanks!
Sarah W
11:34 AM, 20/04/15
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Not quite fulfilling the requirements, but still possibly worthwhile, I read Ars Technica regularly.

It's admittedly software / web focused, but does interesting sidelines in Science and Engineering. They've recently done a couple of articles on manufacturing at GE, for example.
Dave A.
11:54 AM, 20/04/15
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Which areas does the club usually climb in when it goes to Pembroke?

I had an awesome weekend at Saddle Head and St Govan's east and didn't even get on the best lines. Can't wait to go back...
Luke D.

4:26 PM, 20/04/15
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"Which areas does the club usually climb in when it goes to Pembroke?

I think St. David's, St. Govan's, Stennis Head and Saddle Head are the most popular on club meets. St. David's is a bit further away but is well worth it.
Will B
6:11 PM, 20/04/15
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"Not quite fulfilling the requirements, but still possibly worthwhile, I read Ars Technica regularly." -- Dave A.
Ahaha. I haven't read Ars since the forums went pay-only in like 2002. Wonder if my old login still works...
NickD
9:50 PM, 20/04/15
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AHAHA it does! How's that for a database! I must have first registered in about 1999/2000 Happy
NickD
9:52 PM, 20/04/15
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Good going! Though you should probably change your passwords more often Wink
Niall H.
12:02 AM, 21/04/15
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I don't seem to bother with forums anymore. I can get my dose of getting to annoy people over the internet for free here Wink
Dave A.
8:16 AM, 21/04/15
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But what if someone is WRONG on the INTERNET?!
Cameron
11:21 AM, 21/04/15
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"But what if someone is WRONG on the INTERNET?!" -- Cameron
Dave A.
11:33 AM, 21/04/15
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Rich reads the Professional Engineer and rates it more highly then any of the Institutions mags (he swapped institutions so has more experience of these than most!)
Alison
1:08 PM, 21/04/15
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"But what if someone is WRONG on the INTERNET?!" -- Cameron

Today, someone is WRONG on the INTERNET (also on the Today programme this morning). Very annoying.
Fred
5:57 PM, 21/04/15
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Meanwhile, elsewhere on the internet, Sydney Padua is merely being counterfactual
Niall H.
9:10 PM, 21/04/15
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Will, try asking at your local supermarket for free (used) cardboard boxes. I'm also just about to move, and got about 20 banana boxes from the co-op.
Gillian
5:41 AM, 22/04/15
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Hey climbers!!! Everyone click on this link - I'm trying to bump my views over 10,000 so I can put it on my CV Happy
NickD
10:44 AM, 22/04/15
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Er, or don't read it but cite it anyway. Citations are always better.
NickD
10:44 AM, 22/04/15
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Done Grinning
Robert
11:03 AM, 22/04/15
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Oh collective Gossip Page mind. I need to get a new bike, and I'm trying to think of arguments for and against spending a little bit more to get a bike that feels really nice.

Having tried out a few things at the shop, the things that appeal to me are either a 240 bike that feels much like my old bike, or a 410 bike that just made me smile while I was riding it.

Arguments against spending more include the fact that the expensive bike is probably more likely to get stolen (especially since I'll occasionally leave my bike locked at Keble Rd, Headington Shops, or the train station for a weekend), and I have a contract that has less than 12 months left, so I don't know where I'll be next year.

Arguments in favour of spending more are that if I'm around for a year it's just 50p per day extra to ride something that felt so much nicer. And if I end up still in the UK but somewhere more hilly, the more expensive bike would be *much* nicer. Plus it'll probably encourage me to cycle out a bit more from Oxford on pleasant summer afternoons.

Interesting observation is that the cheaper bike is purple and sparkly, which might discourage thieves?

Any other thoughts? (Or thoughts on what's important in an Oxford bike mainly used for commuting? Or thoughts on what a good amount to spend is?)
Cameron
11:14 AM, 22/04/15
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Get the more expensive bike, then get a really good lock.

My bike was around 500. It hasn't been stolen (yet) because I always lock it up to the most secure post I can find - even if it means walking a few hundred meters.

I've noticed that there is always a nicer looking, more expensive bike nearby which I can park mine next to. Grinning

Having a nice bike counts for a lot. I bought my bike because out of those I tried it felt the best to ride.
Luke D

11:26 AM, 22/04/15
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The more expensive bike option is still relatively cheap in terms of bikes so Luke's tactic of a good lock (or two) is sound. You could also insure your bike...Jess has hers (which cost about three times as much as the one you are considering) on our household insurance and it added 15 to the policy to be insured outside the house too.

I meanwhile continue to cycle my mother's hybrid bike which is older than me...because it hasn't yet either been nicked or fallen apart!
George
11:43 AM, 22/04/15
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Reckon Two-Locks-Cameron is the way to go. And you could always -not- take your bike rather than leave it around at weekends.

After all, if it makes you smile every time you ride it, think how nice the next year is going to be. Happy
Lina
12:06 PM, 22/04/15
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Mind you, I still have the bike I got when I was 15....I took it into the bike shop last week, and they expressed surprise that it hadn't been nicked, being in Oxford all that time.
Lina
12:09 PM, 22/04/15
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Cameron, if a bike makes you smile, buy it Grinning

Ditto the lock up next to a prettier bike with a crappier lock suggestion. Invest in a good lock (or two).

Also, consider de-prettifying your bike in a reversible way (i.e. wrap the frame in electrical tape, etc).

Where have you been looking and what are you looking at?

Bethan
12:25 PM, 22/04/15
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PS - even if you end up moving out of the UK, if your bike makes you happy you can always ship it with you. (Bike bags for flying aren't difficult to come by, and shipping is the longer option). Mine have always moved with me and I'll def be taking my bikes with me when I next move, wherever that may be (even if it means waiting a while for them to turn up Wink )
Bethan
12:29 PM, 22/04/15
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I've been looking at the Oxford Bicycle Company, since I know the main guy there, he serviced my old bike (and did a good job), and it's the closest shop to where I live. I should possibly also look elsewhere, but I know and trust them.

I'm looking at last year's model of the cheapest Forme hybrid. It's just very nice to ride (by my usual standards).
Cameron
2:23 PM, 22/04/15
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Other point is that there isn't a wonderfully secure place at home to leave bikes. We've got a bike stand in the front garden, but it's only held into the ground by tent pegs. It's also possible to keep bikes round the back, but it's really hard to get into if Mike's car is in the drive.

But yeah, you've convinced me in favour of the nice bike. Happy
Cameron
2:26 PM, 22/04/15
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"We've got a bike stand in the front garden, but it's only held into the ground by tent pegs." --
Cameron


What you have just described is a tent, not a bike stand Wink

Tip: buy a large bucket, a mid-price U-lock and a large bag of postcrete. Mix up the postcrete in the bucket. Set the U-lock into the postcrete, hoop sticking up. Wait for it to set. Hey presto - secure (ish) bike lock. Better than nothing! I made one of these to lock bikes in the back garden.

+1 for the Oxford Bicycle Company, he is really nice. (He has a shop now?!)
Bethan
2:35 PM, 22/04/15
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Yes! He only got it quite recently, I think, but it's at the bottom of Southfield Rd, just off Cowley Rd.

His wife used to be one of the receptionists in maths, so I know them through that connection first. Happy
Cameron
2:42 PM, 22/04/15
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Bethan: I may be around Oxford with nothing much to do on Saturday morning and/or Sunday. Any interest in wandering around to help me think about bike security options (and maybe helping me to not mess up the DIY) if you're free? I'll recompense you in nice food, drink, and/or choir concert tickets. Happy
Cameron
2:51 PM, 22/04/15
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If you have any available wall space (and permission to drill into it) you can attach bike bolts to the brick with unremovable screws. This may or may not be as faffy as mixing postcrete!
Jamie
4:25 PM, 22/04/15
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"Cameron, if a bike makes you smile, buy it Grinning Ditto the lock up next to a prettier bike with a crappier lock suggestion. Invest in a good lock (or two). Also, consider de-prettifying your bike in a reversible way (i.e. wrap the frame in electrical tape, etc). " -- Bethan

I second all this - my friend, who has extremely expensive taste in bikes and lives in London, spray-paints his bikes matt black and sticks gaffer tape on them.

Also just make sure the locks are disproportionate to the attractiveness of the bike. This ratio increases in a favourable direction every day you own the bike.


Clare
4:33 PM, 22/04/15
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Early sunny beer anyone?
Will B
6:17 PM, 22/04/15
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+1 to early beer
Pete C
6:23 PM, 22/04/15
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How about 7:30?
Will B
6:32 PM, 22/04/15
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Oui.
Pete C
6:38 PM, 22/04/15
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"sunny beer" -- Will B

Two of my favourite words... I'm keen but might not make 7:30, got my teeth into a fun matlab problem. I'll be there when I get too hungry/tired to carry on.

Also: thanks very much to Dave & Alison for suggestions! I will check those out. Going to try and figure out how to not have to pay for them, I'm sure I can read them through the Bodleian somehow.
Sarah W
6:45 PM, 22/04/15
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"...you've convinced me in favour of the nice bike. Happy" -- Cameron

Make sure you check out the Giant Escape II from Cycloanalysts. Its in a similar price bracket to the Forme. There is also a Claud Butler...

Luke D

6:47 PM, 22/04/15
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Will, Pete: If you see me going the other way, it's because I have choir practice.

Luke: My bike for the last six years was a Claud Butler from Cycloanalysts, and it was really lovely. It's tempting to go ride around on a few more things, but the Forme just felt amazingly good, and I know that one will be ready for me tomorrow morning, so I've decided to go with it. Happy
Cameron
7:17 PM, 22/04/15
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matlab problem
Two of my least favourite words! I like the sound of the beer, though
Niall H.
7:26 PM, 22/04/15
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I won't make the pub tonight. Will appreciate it if people keep me in mind/in the loop on any weekend climbing plans...
Luke D

7:55 PM, 22/04/15
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Likewise! Free Sunday :-)
Mary
8:28 PM, 22/04/15
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Bike insurance is good - mine just paid out an obscene amount for my bike built from our spare parts box. I still wish I'd taped the frame though (it was shiny and white).
Replaced it with a Vitus from Chain Reaction which s good cos a) it has cute yellow aliens on it, but is mostly black b) it came with a free drinks bottle, pedal spanner and allen key set, despite only being 250. However c) I don't think it is in the right gear (there's only one, but it's too low) and d) I think it's mechanical disk brakes might be hard to maintain.
Alison
10:55 PM, 22/04/15
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I have the new bike. It's still making me happy. Grinning

The only smidgen of buyer's remorse is fear around how shiny it is at the moment, but that will pass (both the fear and the shininess). I wish there were an easy spot to keep it indoors or round the back of the house.
Cameron
10:31 AM, 23/04/15
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"I have the new bike. " -- Cameron

Nice Grinning

On another note, what plans for climbing this weekend were discussed last night? Are people put off by forecast?
Luke D.

10:50 AM, 23/04/15
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Saturday looks ok for the Peaks/Wye so I'm still planning on heading somewhere with Alex. I think Will may also be keen...
Tor
11:23 AM, 23/04/15
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I have the new bike. It's still making me happy
Hurrah!
Niall H.
12:14 PM, 23/04/15
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I'll probably be going to Reading wall on Saturday afternoon, for anyone who wants to escape the (potential) rain.
Sarah W
12:48 PM, 23/04/15
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"Saturday looks ok for the Peaks/Wye so I'm still planning on heading somewhere with Alex. I think Will may also be keen... " -- Tor

Ok great. I'm in. The new Eastern Grit guide arrived this week. It's huge! Shock

Luke D.

12:57 PM, 23/04/15
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Am meant to be climbing in the Peaks but am being put off by the fact that it keeps changing. And is forecast to snow on Sunday morning!
Alison
1:41 PM, 23/04/15
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Does anyone know if Gooutdoors or Blacks sell guidebook covers? They don't seem to have any listed on their website.
Luke D

3:26 PM, 23/04/15
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I'd doubt it on both counts. Online is probably your best bet.
Cameron
7:39 PM, 23/04/15
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I've never seen them at either.
On the subject of Blacks, though, the Oxford Blacks is running a 30%-off sale at the moment, as they're shutting that branch (sadly, they ditched climbing kit a couple of years back, but there's general outdoors kit)
Niall H.
7:43 PM, 23/04/15
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Don't they have a "closing down sale" every few months?
NickD
6:25 AM, 24/04/15
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BTW thanks all for viewing my paper. 10,057 Happy
NickD
7:13 AM, 24/04/15
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Happy birthday Katja! Happy
Niall H.
9:09 AM, 24/04/15
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Thank you Niall! Grinning
Katja
10:45 AM, 24/04/15
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Ooh! Happy Birthday, Kat. I hope you have a lovely day. Grinning
Cameron
12:16 PM, 24/04/15
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A sleepy day,sadly, L was up all night. Rolling eyes At least she picked a day when I had carefully avoided booking any customers!
Katja
12:20 PM, 24/04/15
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Oo, happy birthday Katja Grinning I'll have to get you a belated birthday drink tomorrow evening
George
12:49 PM, 24/04/15
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Happy Birthday Katja!
jo
5:30 PM, 24/04/15
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Anyone fancy the pub tonight?

Jody

6:55 PM, 24/04/15
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Anyone fancy Peak tomorrow?
Lina
7:05 PM, 24/04/15
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Let me know where you are heading Jody - not sure I have your no...
Tor
7:23 PM, 24/04/15
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"Let me know where you are heading Jody - not sure I have your no..." -- Tor

Pub or peak?
Jody

7:26 PM, 24/04/15
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Pub...
Tor
7:35 PM, 24/04/15
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In kazbar
Jody

8:36 PM, 24/04/15
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Was thinking about Peaks tomorrow but it looks like it will rain all afternoon. have i got soft in my old age?
Alison
9:22 PM, 24/04/15
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What are people planning for the first May bank holiday? I know there's a club meet that weekend, are folk going on it? And is anyone planning to stay for the bank holiday day?
Aileen
9:36 PM, 24/04/15
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Of the people who are stuck in Oxford this weekend, is anyone interested in seeing the new Avengers?
Pete C
12:24 AM, 25/04/15
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"Of the people who are stuck in Oxford this weekend, is anyone interested in seeing the new Avengers?" -- Pete C

I could be convinced.

Anyone fancy a bike ride imminently?
Jody

11:51 AM, 25/04/15
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Anyone fancy cycling to Brill?
Jody

12:06 PM, 25/04/15
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Has anyone been to Rainster Rocks (near Harborough)? It sounds like it would be good and sheltered from the wind, but is now overgrown?
Alison
5:44 PM, 25/04/15
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J and I once tried to find it, and failed because it was so overgrown. This was about 12 years ago!
Clare
6:15 PM, 25/04/15
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Thanks Clare. Ended up having an awesome day at Harborough with lots of warm rock and lovely routes (plus the cave chimney route....)
Alison
7:56 PM, 26/04/15
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